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Old 08-14-2008, 11:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Please could someone have a guess at a fair price for a 12inchx4inch (300mmx100mm) Natural Coticule/BBW combo benchstone. Yes, the dimentions are correct.
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Please could someone have a guess at a fair price for a 12inchx4inch (300mmx100mm) Natural Coticule/BBW combo benchstone. Yes, the dimentions are correct.
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You can get some idea from the producer's web site:

Ardennes Coticule - Producer of the Coticule whetstone!

a 250x100 Belgian blue stone goes for Euro 99.00 and a 200x90 Coticule goes for Euro 290.00, so you're looking at Euro 390.00 new, even if you could get that size, which is no longer available. Fair price? It depends on whether you're buying or selling.
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Thanks. It's rare then?
I have no money at the moment. So my change jar is going to be cashed in!
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What do you need a stone that big for?
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It has collector value, no mistake, but for the purpose of razor honing, anything wider than 3" is a waste of hone because that is the max length of a razor blade.
An 8x3 coticule can be had for 185$ plus shipping.

I've asked howard about the difference between selected /standard and kosjer, and it has nothing to do with quality, only with coloring.
A coticule with a very even witish color is much more expensive than a standard coticule, even though one is no better or worse than the other.

Your 8x4 coticule will probably be very expensive, and probably not worth the different with an 8x3 for the purpose of razor honing.
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Hi Russel, answer = "it's cheap"
Hi Buno, it's not 8x4, it's a 12x4 natural combo ! with a nice box too.
It is no where near $185 with shipping
I wouldn't mind another 100 or so, I could do the patio then
It is coming tomorrow, I'll post some pictures.
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I've asked howard about the difference between selected /standard and kosjer, and it has nothing to do with quality, only with coloring.
A coticule with a very even witish color is much more expensive than a standard coticule, even though one is no better or worse than the other.
The coticule in its variety and varied performance from stone to stone is a unique animal. In my limited experience, I agree with you and Howard that color can't be THE deciding factor in performance.

I will say that the 2 creamy white or very light colored coticules I own compared to some darker yellow or mottled coticules seem to be better performers. They cut/polish better, they can raise slurry on their own with just water, they feel softer and they're more fun to work with. The two I mention are both vintage stones as well.

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Oh, and Marcus you devil, congrats on the coticule. I can't wait to see pictures. Soon, my friend, I'm guessing I'll be adding to my collection by asking to purchase stones from what you're seeming to be building; a burgeoning collection of great natural stones!

BTW, Since I have HAD, I wouldn't hesitate to break the piggy bank to buy a 12x12 coticule if one existed, whether such a size was unnecessary for honing razors or not!!!
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I know I've been pleading poverty Chris but I COULD NOT let this hone pass.
I haven't forgotten my promise either.

Here is the monster
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I know I've been pleading poverty Chris but I COULD NOT let this hone pass.
I haven't forgotten my promise either.

Here is the monster
Very pretty! There must be a story behind this... where did it come from?
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AHHH, I see, you weren't looking to buy a new one, just wondering what your's is really worth.

Nice score, but we need more details than that!
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It has come from a microscope shop. They use them (coticules) to sharpen microtomes?? (blades for cutting slices in samples of things to be peered at)
I think whoever got it originaly must have seen the real world as small when not peering into his scope
BTW The shop reckon it's unused!!
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Absolute score, Marcus. Anyone would be more than pleased to have that rest in their permanent collection. Congratulations.

don't EVER cut that stone up or let anyone else do likewise!!!!!

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Absolute score, Marcus. Anyone would be more than pleased to have that rest in their permanent collection. Congratulations.

don't EVER cut that stone up or let anyone else do likewise!!!!!

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+1 This is worth repeating.
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I had to laugh. When I rang the shop, the lady didn't know if they still had the hone. So she went to get it, she was gone a while, she came back sounding puffed and said "bloody hell, it's heavy, your going to have to pay a courier for delivery, the post office won't take it"
I said fine
Anyone got an opinion from the pictures? It is a natural combo by the looks of it, ref the wavey line between the two stone types.
I'm also wondering "how the hell am I going to lap it?" It as big as a sheet of sandpaper.
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I won't cut it up. My wife wants me to sell it because of the difference in what it cost and potentially what it's worth........................... I don't want to sell it but I should! Looking in empty wallet.
Has anyone seen or heard of a piece this big, apart from the war memorial at Ardennes?
The only anoying thing is, it makes my other Belgian rocks look redundant, well, apart from my combo slurry bout.
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I'm also wondering "how the hell am I going to lap it?" It as big as a sheet of sandpaper.
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Butt two sheets together and tape down the outside edges. The little crack between the sheets of sandpaper won't have any effect.
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Can any of you guys tell me what they think looking at the picture. Thanks.
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I won't cut it up. My wife wants me to sell it because of the difference in what it cost and potentially what it's worth........................... I don't want to sell it but I should! Looking in empty wallet.
Has anyone seen or heard of a piece this big, apart from the war memorial at Ardennes?
The only anoying thing is, it makes my other Belgian rocks look redundant, well, apart from my combo slurry bout.
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given that each stone seems to be unique in its behavior, it might well not make your others redundant, becuase they might be faster cutting or lead to a finer edge.
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Good point........
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Also this is something that is likely to hold its value well, so you are likely to be able to sell it for a lot no matter when you sell it.
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