[JMS]

FOXNews.com - Did Biden Get It Wrong? You Betcha - Opinion

Anyone care to comment?

[Philadelph]

Leave it to FOXNews... Plenty of the fact checks below were taken way out of context. At least Biden knows the issues rather than just how to dodge them.

[WireBeard]

Over the years, I've watch Fox news go from being respected to being just this side of Jerry Springer.

The journalist version of gawking at a fatal accident.

Unlike Palin, I can name where I get my news:

AP
Reuters
New York Times
Washington Post
Denver Post/RMN
BBC
International Herald Tribune
CNN (in small doses)
PBS
Chicago Tribune
Izvestiya
WSJ
The Economist
Bloomberg
Russia Today
Xinhua

Depends on the topic. It's interesting reading how news agencies not under the control of corporate America report the news.

[JMS]

Nobody has truly addressed the article yet!

Would anyone like to address the article I linked?

[Bruno]

I haven't watched the debate, so I cannot judge whether what biden said or did not say was correct, or if it was taken out of context.
Biden gets slammed by FOX which if a front for the republican party.

It's not different from Palin getting slammed for what she reportedly said by some other news source.

I think it's sad that news sources can have such obvious party afiliations. How the hell are you supposed to get neutral reporting?

[ScottS]

factcheck does a reasonable job of pointing out misstatements, errors, and lies from both parties in all the debates. Having read that, I don't really feel compelled to see what the experts at Fox think.

[sicboater]

I will say that most of what it mentions is Biden being wrong about certain things. It sounds very whiny. Here is the thing: much of what Lott points out is small and almost insignificant. If Palin is being dealt with unfairly by some of the media, she should respond by not giving them the ammo they need to do the job so thoroughly. Atleast when Biden gaffs or says something strange I can tell what he was trying to say. The same can be said of Quayle: when he misspoke atleast he made enough sense so that we could understand he was being an idiot. Palin just sounds plain uneducated and carefree, especially in writing. That being said, she did a much better job of comporting herself during the debate than she ever has before.

The article leaves me looking for better and more genuine sources of news exactly the way Fox, CNN, and MS (Stands for MICROSOFT!!!!) NBC do every time I am assaulted by their presence.

FactCheck.org’s first critique claims that Palin was wrong to claim that troop levels in Iraq are down to their pre-surge levels. They are correct that after the recently announced drawdown, 6,000 more troops will be in Iraq than immediately before the surge. But why not mention that 84 percent of the 38,000 troops in the surge are home or are in the process of coming home? Maybe because Palin wasn't smart enough to bring it up herself?

WHINE WHINE WHINE.

[Hutch]

Originally Posted by JMS

FOXNews.com - Did Biden Get It Wrong? You Betcha - Opinion

Anyone care to comment?

Comment on the article

Personally who gives a damn about any of those things really, "Palin had it right" ? What did she have right? That she wants the VP to have more power and be above reproach, like D.C. has been attempting to do. Oh know Biden said Article 1 not 2, he should be drawn and quartered.

He called a restaurant by it's old name, who cares, people's 401K's are losing value, there's a war going on , Americans and other's are dying, people are losing their homes and jobs, but he republicans want to discuss these minute senseless details, if times were good I'm sure they would have gotten away with it too.

I go to a restaurant all the time, been going there for about 25 year's we call it Gus', that's what the regulars all still call it (it's actually the The Village Restaurant).

[Navaja]

Biden is trying very hard to look stupid, and he's being very succesful at it. Perhaps Hillary is paying him under the table.

[WireBeard]

Originally Posted by Navaja

Biden is trying very hard to look stupid, and he's being very succesful at it. Perhaps Hillary is paying him under the table.

Could be...or she could have sided with Palin and saved her money....

[De Layne]

Originally Posted by JMS

FOXNews.com - Did Biden Get It Wrong? You Betcha - Opinion

Anyone care to comment?

I try to keep my political posts to a minimum......I find that to be the best policy to keep misunderstandings from occurring about a volatile subject. I guess maybe I'll say a few things here, and hope it doesn't step on any toes. Just the way I see things.

Regarding your question about that link: Truthfully, it doesn't matter if he screwed up as that article claims. Seriously, let's say everything that was printed was correct, and Mr Biden was wrong on many subjects. So what? Really, are most of those topics a big deal to most people?

Let's say everything Mrs Palin said was right on the button, regarding those same topics. So what? She may have nailed everything perfectly, but it's just not that important.

Here's the issue as I see it, here's the real question you're asking us to comment on. You are asking if after reading this article, Mr Biden seems dumber and less qualified to run the country than Mrs Palin. The answer would be NO! I have already formed my opinion of that woman based on my observance of her in different situations, and there's no way I'd even begin to think she's both smarter and more knowledgeable than Mr Biden.

I'd love to see anyone post, claiming she's NOT the less qualified one of the two, but I don't believe there's any one here to do that. Looked like that's what the writer was trying to accomplish, but he didn't convince me. Sad huh?

Maybe sometime we can all have a nice chat about the Fox phenomenon. Now THAT would be entertaining......heh. I know there's members who enjoy that type of news, and it IS fun to watch. Hehe, of course, you always have to consider the source when reading or watching Fox stations. Hah........can you imagine someone totally without political experience only being allowed access to Fox News? Whoa momma.........

Anyway, I hope that was the question you wanted comments on. If I'm wrong I apologize and hope to do better next time. To all the readers, please keep in mind there's no malice intended at all. It's just what I see to be the plain truth, and I'm certainly willing to entertain logical alternate ideas.
Martin

[icedog]

Why would anyone care what Fox News has to say? Oh, I guess I'd care if they supported my views but they don't. Can't we please just stick to bashing the Republicans?

[hoglahoo]

Biden claimed that Cheney is the most dangerous VP ever and based that claim on what he said was Cheney's misunderstanding of the Constitution. That Biden was wrong in what he laid out as Cheney's misunderstanding points to Biden's own misunderstanding of the Constitution.

What's the point? If misunderstanding the role of the VP makes you the most dangerous VP ever, and Biden misunderstands it, then by Biden's own standards he is running to be the most dangerous VP in history

Say it ain't so, Joe!

[ScottS]

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

Say it ain't so, Joe!

That's a great emoticon. I'll have to remember it for Nov 5.

[hoglahoo]

yes, it is. we are guaranteed 4 more years of laughs regardless of who is elected

[Russel Baldridge]

All political campaigns are full of contradictions like this.

I recall Sarah Palin making fun of Joe Bidens age, something like "I've been listening to his speeches since the second grade".

At which point I said, "Are you serious? Your own running mate is 6 years older!"

Of course, in interviews afterward, she claimed it was to make the point that he's a worthy adversary with lots of experience (though that's not what her tone in the speech suggests). But that is another faux pas because she has been accused of not having enough experience. Why would you make a point of stating that someone is more fit for a job than you are?

I try not to read too much into these things and stick to track records and policies; the mudslinging is base and tiring anyway.

[ScottS]

Originally Posted by Russel Baldridge

I recall Sarah Palin making fun of Joe Bidens age, something like "I've been listening to his speeches since the second grade".

I remember hearing a zinger something along the lines of "The last time McCain said something that made any sense, she was in sixth grade", but I can't remember who said it.

William F Buckley's son just endorsed Obama.

[WireBeard]

The 2008 Elections

YouTube - Monty Python Twit Race Sketch

[gugi]

Originally Posted by Russel Baldridge

I recall Sarah Palin making fun of Joe Bidens age, something like "I've been listening to his speeches since the second grade".

At which point I said, "Are you serious? Your own running mate is 6 years older!"

Of course, in interviews afterward, she claimed it was to make the point that he's a worthy adversary with lots of experience (though that's not what her tone in the speech suggests). But that is another faux pas because she has been accused of not having enough experience. Why would you make a point of stating that someone is more fit for a job than you are?

Actually I am convinced that the main concern of Sarah Palin is Sarah Palin. Everything she does seems to be motivated of whether it does her good. She is very savy politician, just like Obama, but it will be interesting to watch some of the future primaries where she would be challenged on substance. She hasn't done anything hard in her life and that shows (winning against corrupt politicians, or spending money when it's plentiful is the opposite of hard).
For that matter Obama hasn't done many hard things either, but at least he's shown that he can set a goal and be diciplined and persistent in pursuing it.

[Russel Baldridge]

The Twit Olympics indeed!