Protein!

jockeys · 10-06-2008, 04:42 PM

For those of you iron freaks out there, what kind of protein supplement do you choke down every day on your way home from the gym?

Currently, I am using IronMind JustProtein, but the texture is horrific even if the taste is pretty good. (Well, pretty good for protein. most protein that I've had tastes like death warmed over)

OLD_SCHOOL · 10-06-2008, 04:56 PM

I once tried some crap with the name Massive. It thickened up like glue so you had to kinda chew it down, rather than drink. I then tried some whey protein stuff, don't recall the name, but the best I had tried was Createan. That was the highest quality available at the time.

Its been years since I used any of those, so there probably are better ones out there now.

bbshriver · 10-06-2008, 10:31 PM

I like this stuff
GNC - Pro Performance Shop Page: Protein: Whey Protein: GNC Pro Performance® Wheybolic Extreme 60™ - Chocolate

Best taste-wise by FAR is muscle milk... good stuff

Quick Orange · 10-06-2008, 11:09 PM

I like muscle milk, it's just so damn expensive!

Mike7120 · 10-08-2008, 05:04 AM

I buy the 5 pound jug of GNC Pro Performance 100% Whey Protein in chocolate. It's my favorite protein supplement on the market, and I've tried many.

bevansmw · 10-08-2008, 08:04 AM

Muscle milk is my favorite overall, next to Myoplex. The Myoplex is really expensive though and I found the muscle milk isn't too expensive and generally has a good taste for protein. I can't stand the generic GNC stuff, some of the protein powders on the market are absolutely disgusting imo... I mix it with low-fat milk usually to make my shakes, adds more protein and isn't as hideous as they sometimes turn out with water, normally thicker though so I usually put the powder in a shaker then fill with milk and shake

I like the newer shaker mugs that GNC has now too, with the little wire steel ball inside to do the mixing instead of the grids that never worked very well.

Smurf87 · 10-08-2008, 08:19 AM

I tried a bunch of things, but my favorite is the Isopure protein (Choc. Shake). Great taste and consistancy when mixed with water, and 50g protein per serving with <1gram(s) of Carbs. The price is, if I remember correctly, just above muscle milk, but its definitely worth it. I tried Muscle Milk cookies 'n cream, but IMHO Isopure beats it on all levels for me.
[+1 on the GNC shaker cup, probably the best little gadget I've ever gotten]

V/r,
Scott

Kees · 10-08-2008, 06:57 PM

A healthy individual only needs the amount of protein 75 grams (= 2.65 oz) of meat provide. If you do iron pumping it may be a bit more. All additional food protein is broken down by the body and used to fuel the metabolism or converted to fat and urea. Urea is a toxic substance the kidneys have to remove from the body.

SO WHAT IS THE POINT OF EATING MORE PROTEIN? Unless of course you take anabolic steroids...

Utopian · 10-08-2008, 08:10 PM

Chicken
Sardines
Eggs
Milk

Artificial protein supplements are an ineffective waste of money.

Quick Orange · 10-08-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kees

A healthy individual only needs the amount of protein 75 grams (= 2.65 oz) of meat provide. If you do iron pumping it may be a bit more. All additional food protein is broken down by the body and used to fuel the metabolism or converted to fat and urea. Urea is a toxic substance the kidneys have to remove from the body.

SO WHAT IS THE POINT OF EATING MORE PROTEIN? Unless of course you take anabolic steroids...

When you work out, your body needs to rebuild your muscles with protein. Often strength trainers can't get the proper amount of protein without also taking in too many carbs or calories for the diets they've chosen. For me, I just don't get the amount of protein I need because of my eating habits. I never eat breakfast, occasionally skip lunch, and eat a regular dinner

Utopian · 10-09-2008, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Quick Orange

When you work out, your body needs to rebuild your muscles with protein. Often strength trainers can't get the proper amount of protein without also taking in too many carbs or calories for the diets they've chosen.

Yes and no. There is cellular damage following heavy workouts but the need for extra protein is minimal. The damaged cells don't simply disappear--they either get repaired or recycled, so the need for extra nutritional protein is nowhere near as extreme as most bodybuilders imagine.

Quick Orange · 10-09-2008, 07:28 AM

I think the idea is that it's not only recycled, but that more is added in to bulk up. I'm sure there are a lot of people who take too much protein though...it's bound to happen.

jockeys · 10-09-2008, 02:47 PM

I have found protein to be extremely helpful when lifting weights, it helps me get stronger faster and recover quicker than not taking it. There are definitely limits, though, and some people take it too far. Some of my buddies who are hardcore irongamers take 1 gram or more per pound of body weight. So, they are taking 200+ grams of protein a day, which seems ridiculous. I limit myself to less than 100g, because I am not trying to gain a ton of weight this season, just put some more plates on the bar.

I like the protein supplements because they are natural, don't have much fat or cholesterol, and are pretty easy to deal with. I don't want to be a walking pharmacy like Ronnie Coleman or anything, but I've found that training without any supplements at all just doesn't get you anywhere.

Utopian · 10-09-2008, 03:25 PM

OK, this is a debate I know better than getting into so I won't. I know about cellular breakdown post exercise due to my research, not my lengthy gym time, but I won't change anyone's mind. I also have doubts about any protein supplement being "natural" but I suppose everyone has their own definition.

honedright · 10-09-2008, 03:35 PM

Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard Whey Protien is a good choice. It is a blend of whey isolate and concentrate, plus lactase enzyme. If you shop around you can find it for about $7.00 per pound which is pretty good for a quality whey protien product. Vitaminshoppe was selling it in ten pound "dog food" bags. It comes in all the standard flavors: vanilla, chocolate, etc. I think ON also produces a flavorless and non-sweetened version for those that want to avoid artificial sweeteners.

Or, you can do what many of the bodybuilders used to recommend to me back in the eighties when I was working out at the original World Gym in Santa Monica, California (Joe Gold was the owner - Arnold, Zane, Dickerson, Ferrigno, etc, lifted there regularly) drink milk...

Scott

Earthdawn · 10-09-2008, 03:51 PM

All The Whey | Whey Protein Supplements for Bodybuilding and Health

ill keep my answer simple. Taste is great and it blends well. If you want a the best shaker there is get a "Blender Bottle"

Quick Orange · 10-09-2008, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jockeys

I have found protein to be extremely helpful when lifting weights, it helps me get stronger faster and recover quicker than not taking it. There are definitely limits, though, and some people take it too far.

I've found the same. I can work out and not take anything and end up being sore longer and not really have anything to show for it. Take some protein and boom, feelin' better and lifting more. Something else that has helped me is called No Xplode. It's more or less an energy supplement, but it has been awesome to use.

jockeys · 10-09-2008, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Quick Orange

I've found the same. I can work out and not take anything and end up being sore longer and not really have anything to show for it. Take some protein and boom, feelin' better and lifting more. Something else that has helped me is called No Xplode. It's more or less an energy supplement, but it has been awesome to use.

I'm intrigued... url?

Quick Orange · 10-09-2008, 09:03 PM

BSN Online - Products - N.O.-Xplode

Ignore the cheesy power lifter looking crap- it's a good product. I've experienced all the benefits it gives in this list:

N.O.-Xplode Highlights:

Training energy, motivation and intensity
Mental alertness and focus
Muscle fullness, vascularity and pumps
Strength, power, endurance and work capacity
Resistance to muscular fatigue
Healthy Nitric Oxide (N.O.) levels; blood flow and delivery of oxygen and nutrients to muscle tissue

N.O.-Xplode Benefits:

Maximizes training intensity, energy and motivation for any athletic activity, or fitness regimen
Enhances mental focus and acuity; helps establish mind-muscle connection during physical activities and sporting events
Increases resistance to muscular fatigue, power output and overall work capacity
Elevates blood flow and delivery of oxygen and nutrients
Zero sugar; ideal performance and energy igniter for low carb diet

It's one of those things that before I started taking it, I had zero desire to start or complete my workout, and I was always very fatigued afterward. When I take it (make sure to do it on an empty stomach and don't shake it!), I just feel like working out (or any tedious activity) isn't a big deal. I go, ride my ass off on the bike, row like a crew member, then continue on with my day. There's no recovery time needed post-workout, and I don't huff and puff toward the end. The next day all I feel is the good feeling that comes with being active.

It's got a bit in there about focus, and that's absolutely true. For me, there are certain things that I have no will or want to focus on. I drink some No Xplode, and 30 minutes later I'm soaking up the driest information.

The best part on top of all those benefits is that it's not a high, so there's no crash. You take it and get on with your life. Obviously if you take it in the morning, the effects wear off later, but it's about the same as how you feel more alert during certain times of the day.

You can usually get a sample from the stores for free since the tub is a little expensive. If you end up wanting to buy some though, I'll get you the link for the place I buy mine.

Smurf87 · 10-10-2008, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Quick Orange

BSN Online - Products - N.O.-Xplode
It's one of those things that before I started taking it, I had zero desire to start or complete my workout, and I was always very fatigued afterward. When I take it (make sure to do it on an empty stomach and don't shake it!), I just feel like working out (or any tedious activity) isn't a big deal. I go, ride my ass off on the bike, row like a crew member, then continue on with my day. There's no recovery time needed post-workout, and I don't huff and puff toward the end. The next day all I feel is the good feeling that comes with being active.

It's got a bit in there about focus, and that's absolutely true. For me, there are certain things that I have no will or want to focus on. I drink some No Xplode, and 30 minutes later I'm soaking up the driest information.

The best part on top of all those benefits is that it's not a high, so there's no crash. You take it and get on with your life. Obviously if you take it in the morning, the effects wear off later, but it's about the same as how you feel more alert during certain times of the day.

I second what QuickO said. NO-xplode is the best supplement I have ever taken. Its not a protein supplement if your wondering, but I highly recommend it for someone looking to push harder during workouts, get better gains from it, and have more energy and focus afterwards. I can't say enough about how much I love this stuff!!!