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10-10-2008, 12:59 AM
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persco: Forgive me for butting in, but yes, I know exactly what you mean!  I've been struggling to get this guy as sharp as my other razors since I got it. Even reset the bevel twice just to be sure I hadn't done something to the edge. (Though it might be tricky with that hard steel.)
Yes, the bevel might have been set too steep from the factory (I got mine professionally honed after the fact when found this out since I didn't have my DMT then.)
I also use a coticule (combo) & CrO paste--every other razor just about wipes off my beard--this guy? Still figuring it out. Last honing was a complete bevel reset to a good TNT (TPT on this one never seems to dig in as much as my other razors, regardless of grit.  ) followed by ~ 100 strokes on the blue w/ light slurry, ~120 on a wet coticule, & ~40-50 on Cro pasted balsa. Shave was okay (maybe a little less good than a DE shave), but nothing like what I routinely get on my other blades.
I'll keep playing for sure & I 'll let you know if I find a magic bullet for this setup, but I'm almost thinking I might need to wait until I can afford a set of Shaptons to really get the most out of this razor. 
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10-10-2008, 01:04 AM
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FWIW, I have an older 7/8 TI Eagle I got several months ago from a member here, and it was just honed by Chris Ellison before I bought it - he did an absolutely first rate honing job.
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10-10-2008, 01:22 AM
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I'd like to clarify that my objection was that I had no clue who the honer was. I certainly had no objection to Elbonator's honing. That would have been impossible since I didn't know who the honer was.
Tony, I figure if you recommend him we should all accept that Classic Shaving's pre-honed razors are good to go!
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I'm not sure what Chris' arrangement was with Classic and whether he wanted to be disclosed or not and may be why they are not posting the info. Lynn had suggested him to Classic as a source and the timing was right as I was no longer able to provide a supply of razor to him.
Tony
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10-12-2008, 03:09 PM
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I have just recieved my 7/8 filar well about a month ago and it was pre sharpend and it shaves exallant so who ever honed this razor certanly no his stuff. my beard is pritty dense no pulling realy smooth shave.10/10
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10-13-2008, 02:12 AM
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Well, after just successfully honing my new Filly, that I received from Classic-untouched, I can assure you who ever hones for them worked like hell to make $20
One REALLY NICE razor. A true &%*@# to hone, but once it's there it gives a fantastic shave. I've heard "toledo steel" , anybody know for sure?
Although hard, the steel resists chipping and takes a beautiful edge. It'll probably last alot longer than I will,
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10-13-2008, 03:04 AM
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I've heard "toledo steel" , anybody know for sure?
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Arc,
Is that anything like whoops, er, hmm, damascus?

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10-13-2008, 03:48 AM
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10-13-2008, 03:06 PM
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Arc,
 Just playing around with words. Toledo steel was supposed to be wonderful stuff - it made legendary swords. Then there is the mystical, marvelous middle eastern damascus, whoops, wootz steel or the best steel ever forged into a sword. Then we have the damascus steel of yore and the new damascus of the beautiful pattern. Then we have the tamahagane (sp?) marvel for forging into the Samurai blades of lore, but I couldn't fit that one into my maundering.
You don't suppose that the Moors brought with them to Spain the secrets of wootz steel and sterted making it in Toledo, do you? Hmmm.
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10-13-2008, 03:49 PM
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I was in Toledo, Spain about 5 years ago. Beautiful city. I attended a few tours there and from what I gathered, there are few if any cutlers actually making knives, etc from forging on to finished product. I don't think steel is made there anymore. There are a fair amount of tourist knife shops with gaudy mount on the wall type knives that I would assume were made of poor quality steel.
I hope I'm wrong in that.
Chris L
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10-14-2008, 01:47 AM
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....Anyway, I got an email back from them declaring that they had just shipped me an unhoned razor, which is odd since they had told me less than 24 hours earlier that they only had honed razors left. 
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Not that odd, really. After all, it only takes a few swipes across a Norton 2k with the blade held perpendicular to the stone's surface to unhone it. 
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10-15-2008, 03:16 PM
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I'd like to clarify that my objection was that I had no clue who the honer was. I certainly had no objection to Elbonator's honing. That would have been impossible since I didn't know who the honer was.
Tony, I figure if you recommend him we should all accept that Classic Shaving's pre-honed razors are good to go!
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They might have mixed who honed a particular type of prehoned razor. So they might well not be able to answer the question as they didn't keep specific records of who honed which specific razor.
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