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Old 12-04-2008, 03:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question BERGISCHER LOWE: WHAT DOES THE NAME MEAN?

I own a new DOVO BERGISCHER LOWE, that I purchased a month ago. I bough the razor pre-sharpened by classic shaving. com. I love the razor, it shaves well. I'm really getting the hang of a str8. Its my avatar pic next to my thread. I don't know what BERGISCHER LOWE means though? I know that MEISTERWERKE IN STAHL means MASTERPIECES IN STEEL. Is BERGISCHER LOWE a Dovo CEO? A blade or razorsmith there. A founder of Dovo or Bismark the company they purchased some time ago? Is it the plant itself or a suburb of Soligen? Or, is it a statment of execllence? Is it a saying? Can anybody help me out, please? Oh by the way did I say I love my BERGISCHER LOWE! STRAIGHT RAZOR 13.

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Old 12-04-2008, 03:54 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Bergischer Löwe = Lion from a certain area near Solingen/Germany
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Old 12-04-2008, 04:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
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That certain area being Bergisches Land - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
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Not 100% sure, but I think the phrase literally translates as "mountain lion"
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Old 12-04-2008, 06:52 AM   #5 (permalink)
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That would be Berglöwe. And before any members of the local huntin' shootin' fishin' society start hopping on board their lear jets, let it be known that there are no mountain lions in Germany at all.
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Old 12-04-2008, 06:54 AM   #6 (permalink)
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That would be Berglöwe. And before any members of the local huntin' shootin' fishin' society start hopping on board their lear jets, let it be known that there are no mountain lions in Germany at all.
There you go with those damned umlauts again!
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There you go with those damned umlauts again!
Instead of an Umlaut you cn write an e after the letter with the Umlaut.
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Instead of an Umlaut you cn write an e after the letter with the Umlaut.
Thanks Kees, but quite honestly, I would rather poke a little fun at Robin! And, if there was a Belgian equivalent to the umlaut, I would use that instead just to to watch Robin writhe in pain!
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Just for the record, German umlauts used to be regular vowels with an e in old German script on top. More details here: Umlaut (diacritic) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

The Dutch have a different approach to umlauts, Germanic umlaut - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, courtesy of the fact that they still speak some sort of glorified middle High Franconian bastardised with modern English, Indonesian, Turkish, Moroccan Berber, Papiamento, and Sranan.

Just thought I should mention it, you know?
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It means Mountain Lion. At least that's what the Dovo staff told me.
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Splitting hairs, that is simply wrong. If anything, it is a play on words with Berglöwe vs. Löwe aus dem Bergischen, aka mountain lion vs. lion from the Bergisches Land (see above).

So there.
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Just for the record, German umlauts used to be regular vowels with an e in old German script on top. More details here: Umlaut (diacritic) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

The Dutch have a different approach to umlauts, Germanic umlaut - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, courtesy of the fact that they still speak some sort of glorified middle High Franconian bastardised with modern English, Indonesian, Turkish, Moroccan Berber, Papiamento, and Sranan.

Just thought I should mention it, you know?
Friesian (another Germanic language) has Umläute (plural of Umlaut if I am right) that are not reflected in the spelling!
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Splitting hairs, that is simply wrong. If anything, it is a play on words with Berglöwe vs. Löwe aus dem Bergischen, aka mountain lion vs. lion from the Bergisches Land (see above).

So there.
I see... could you find a way to translate it to english, if it is even possible. I understand the play on words or at least the concept of it. But could you be more specific? Thanks!
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I see... could you find a way to translate it to english, if it is even possible. I understand the play on words or at least the concept of it. But could you be more specific? Thanks!
That would be somewhat hard. Take the Wikipedia article:
The Bergisches Land is a region in North Rhine-Westphalia in Germany. It contains beside the tri-city area of Remscheid-Solingen-Wuppertal the district Mettmann, Leverkusen, the Rheinisch-Bergisch district, the Oberbergisch district and parts of the Rhein-Sieg district. It emerged from the Dukedom of Berg. The name of the region is not derived from its mountainous terrain (German: Berg, mountain), but from the dukes of Berg.
Now, the Dukedom of Berg has a lion in its coat of arms: Image:Bergischer Loewe.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, thank you for asking. I think all parties involved may have been wrong, myself obviously included
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