[Karakoup1]

It's official!!

My red paste is finer than 0,5 micron!!

According to one SRP member (NURSE) who bought recently from me, my red stropping paste is finer than the 0,5 micron Cr0203 powder he was using before...

You can read his feedback in the Classified section (top left of your screen, strop/hone section, stropping pastes red & green)

As I was saying since day one I untroduced these pastes, my red one is giving me (and now many other shaving pals from UK, FRANCE, SWITZERLAND and soon worldwide...) a BBS every time I shave!

Don't wait! Have a part of it! Have the BBS you deserve and/or you was searching to have for ages!

Take care!

Valentin

[netsurfr]

So, where do you get your red paste and what is it made out of?
Is it a finer grade of CrO or what?
Interested here is VA, USA...

[onimaru55]

If it's Jewellery grade rouge it's Ferric Oxide ( rust ) and likely finer than 0.5 micron. It's also a little more friable than CrO breaking down to finer particles with use.
Grobet sells it in the USA by the pound as powder or in stick form. Think its called XXG Rouge.

[Karakoup1]

Originally Posted by netsurfr

So, where do you get your red paste and what is it made out of?
Is it a finer grade of CrO or what?
Interested here is VA, USA...

Hello Netsurf!

I get my paste here in Poland..

What is made for?? Good question, my seller is willing to keep his secret... I asked him if it was red rouge once... He smilled to me and said: " Nope..."

Yes, it is finer than Cr0203 as per my "shaving pal" NURSE feedback in the Classified section (top left - Strop/Hone subsection).

The price are for USA, South America, Africa, Asia :

1 block = 12 $ (S/H incl.)
2 blocks = 22 $ (S/H incl.)

Payment has to be made through Paypal at TCHARMONICA@YAHOO.FR. Don't forget to precise me where the paste(s) has/have to be sent (NO P.O. Box please).

I process with the delievery the very same day the funds reach my account or the next working day maximum.

For USA, it usually takes between 7 up to 10 days to reach your location.

Along with my paste(s), I am sending an instructions of use leaflet, including a BBS step-by-step procedure by email.

Hope this help!

BBS yours,

Valentin

[nurse42312]

Hi guys,

i bought the red paste from Valentin recently and he is right - it definately gives a smoother shave than what I was used to. After honing on stones up to 8K, my regime was diamond pastes 2 mic, 1 mic, 0.5 mic, then strop on plain leather (well with strop paste applied). Since getting the red paste from Valentin i keep my previous regime, but add the red paste on a leather strop before stropping on a plain pasted strop, prior to shaving. The results are definately better. I was using 2 Wapi's and the difference was marked. I have just bought a Puma and the shave is superb. I don't know what the paste consists of, but it DEFINATELY works for me....!

Any questions please PM me.

Best wishes,

Mark......

[Karakoup1]

For those of you who understand French, here is the link to the French Str8 website where others shaving pals are just happy about my pastes (5 pages and growing...)

http://www.coupechouclub.com/petite-...is-t640-45.htm

[Karakoup1]

After several posts on the a.m. French Str8 razor forum, I have to post a WARNING:

My Red paste, especially, is strongly addictive!!

Once you tried it, you won't use anything else!! Consider yourself warned!!

[Karakoup1]

Here you go, a satisfied american pal (the message is originated from my post in the Classified section - Click on my signature "My little BBS secret" at the end of my message):

You can find hi_bud_gl's comment as a comment on this Classified Ad: http://straightrazorplace.com/classi...ate/1216344975

To answer for the liquid and/or the dust form, it is a question of tastes... I personnally prefer wax.. and well, I sell it as I buy it... Maybe I am the lazy one here...

Dust/powder can easily spread on the table and if you're making it at home, you can swallow it without noticing...

Matter of taste.... I definitively don't like it in my mouth...

[Ben325e]

"about grit size i think it is bigger then classicshaving red past but smaller then green chro."

When this reviewer says that he thinks its bigger than Classic's red paste but smaller than Chromium oxide, does he mean that the particles are smaller than chromium oxide but bigger than the red paste? I'm assuming he's talking about grit size in terms of 1000, 2000, 4000, 8000, etc.

The red paste from classic is 2-4 microns, so an average of 3 microns, which is the same micron size as the Norton 8000. The Chromium oxide is about .5 microns, or the same as the Shapton 30k. So, as far as my interpretation goes bigger than 8k but smaller than 30k is 8000<= X <= 30000, right?

Since classic says their paste is from 2-4 microns, some would argue that we should use the 4 micron number. Shapton's 4000 stone has a 3.7 micron particle size, so that would say that this paste is 4000 <= X <= 30000.

This contradicts Nurse's comments that the paste is finer than the chromium oxide.

[Karakoup1]

Originally Posted by Ben325e

"about grit size i think it is bigger then classicshaving red past but smaller then green chro."

When this reviewer says that he thinks its bigger than Classic's red paste but smaller than Chromium oxide, does he mean that the particles are smaller than chromium oxide but bigger than the red paste? I'm assuming he's talking about grit size in terms of 1000, 2000, 4000, 8000, etc.

The red paste from classic is 2-4 microns, so an average of 3 microns, which is the same micron size as the Norton 8000. The Chromium oxide is about .5 microns, or the same as the Shapton 30k. So, as far as my interpretation goes bigger than 8k but smaller than 30k is 8000<= X <= 30000, right?

Since classic says their paste is from 2-4 microns, some would argue that we should use the 4 micron number. Shapton's 4000 stone has a 3.7 micron particle size, so that would say that this paste is 4000 <= X <= 30000.

This contradicts Nurse's comments that the paste is finer than the chromium oxide.

Hello Ben!

As I don't personally know any of the a.m. pastes but the chromium oxyd powder, I can only ensure that my red paste is definitively under 0,5 micron.... consequently SMALLER than the Chromium Oxyd powder..

[Ben325e]

Fair enough!

[Karakoup1]

Of course, I contacted hi_bud_gl a couple of minutes ago and pleased him to comment it directly..

I hope he will do it in order to give you finally what you are expecting..

[nun2sharp]

I know hi_bud_gl, and if it works well and he is pleased, it must be good! Hopefully he bought some of the red for me!

[hi_bud_gl]

hi Ben325e
i understand your questions.Let me explain what i said.At first i have bought pastes from classicshaving long time ago may be 3 or more years .i bought 2 pastes ,red,and white. i bought green pastes from hand american.com .it is in dust forum.i i did use green chro o2 pastes for sharpening purposes always in paddle strop but red one i used in regular strop only for taking wired edge out.Now if i said i bought green past from classicshaving that is my mistake .I was out of the red past and that is why i contacted with this seller and asked price and payment option.then i paid i got pastes .i used in paddle strop and i check the edge under the microscope .What i told in my early message exactly what i experience with that red past.(i really don't know or i am not scientist to say what grits they all have)that was experience what i had.this is what is the size red past"Red Sharpening Paste is less coarse with a particle size of 2-4 microns' and this is "Chromium Oxide - 0.5 micron"

That is my mistake i should saY IT IS BIGGER THEN GREEN PAST AND SMALLER THEN RED PAST.(THANK YOU FR POINTING OUT)
i said this paste is between them i am not sure what is the exact size.Now what it does very very fast cutter why i am not sure.that was really surprise i got when i use it .Hope this helps you and rest if you do have questions please do ask.

[Chris L]

Thank you for your clarification, hi_bud_gl. I was following this and I understand now. You were saying in your experience this red paste or stick sold by karakoup1 is coarser than Hand American .5 chromium oxide but finer than the red paste you had purchased in the past from Classic Shaving.

Chris L

[Ben325e]

Chris, thanks for chiming in. From both of hi_bud's posts, I get the same thing. The red paste from Karakoup1 is finer than the red paste from Classic shaving, but not as fine as 0.5 chromium oxide.

If the red paste from classic shaving is approximately 8000 grit, and the 0.5 chromium oxide is approximately 30000 grit, then the paste from Karakoup1 is somewhere between, meaning that

classic shaving < Karakoup1 < chromium oxide, or,

8000 < X < 30000.

This only reiterates the conflict with Nurse's comments.

[Karakoup1]

Sorry to hear/read that but I stick with my statement... My red is FINER than 0,5 micron... I have other pals on the French forum who were using it and I have been told that my paste was finer, exactly as Nurse is stating...

Future will tell us...

[Karakoup1]

Originally Posted by nun2sharp

I know hi_bud_gl, and if it works well and he is pleased, it must be good! Hopefully he bought some of the red for me!

I do hope you will put your comments about it here..

[hoglahoo]

Are you offering samples?

[hi_bud_gl]

Guys i did write down exactly what i did experience with red past.This seller is great person and trustworthy that is my experience with him too.Now Some of you have more experience then i am Please check it out yourself .You may find diffferent results i am not sure.What i will do now i will use another strop for this past clean brand new paddle strop and test it again lets see what result will be.what will come out of that experience i let you know.